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QL to PC network

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Has the QL network connection ever been used to transfer data between QL & PC? If so can you point me to the information?


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There once was an app called something like QL-PC Transfer. I can't remember exactly how it worked but it needed a cable making up.

Sorry, getting old, vague memory.

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NormanDunbar wrote:There once was an app called something like QL-PC Transfer. I can't remember exactly how it worked but it needed a cable making up.
Perhaps you are thinking of this that I found searching QL-PC transfer
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/gen/pcqlxfer/index.html


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I think it was this one http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/filetran/QL_TO_PC.zip.

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NormanDunbar wrote:I think it was this one http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/filetran/QL_TO_PC.zip.

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For some reason that link doesn't work (on my phone at least, not near a computer to check it), although it /looks/ correct.

There was also the QL-PC Fileserver from Di-Ren [https://qlwiki.qlforum.co.uk/doku.php?i ... fileserver]. It was commercial and never released afaik. You may come across second hand copies occasionally.


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dilwyn wrote:
NormanDunbar wrote:For some reason that link doesn't work (on my phone at least, not near a computer to check it), although it /looks/ correct.
It doesn't work on my computer either. :roll: I found some info and different systems here.
https://superbasic-manual.readthedocs.i ... dix17.html#


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Doesn't work for me either! It's on this page http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/filetran/index.html and the link previously posted, I copied directly from a "right click" on my tablet.

Maybe it's an upper case thing?

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NormanDunbar wrote:Maybe it's an upper case thing?
In any case :lol: if a PC was sitting on a QL network and looked like another QL it could respond & send stuff like a QL couldn't it? Hardware wise it seems simple and wouldn't take much software on the PC either. I think I read that the QL network runs at 100 KBaud is that correct?


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Hi Ruptor!
Ruptor wrote:In any case :lol: if a PC was sitting on a QL network and looked like another QL it could respond & send stuff like a QL couldn't it? Hardware wise it seems simple and wouldn't take much software on the PC either.
In essence, the QLAN to USB Bridge Adapter (or QLUB, for short) is such a hardware/software solution, though today, software to run on the PC side exists only for QDOS/SMSQ (i.e. to run within an emulator on the PC) as developed by the author.

A full description, plus documentation and software to download can be found elsewhere on the forum - just search for 'QLUB'. It remains a 'work in progress' with the next software release expected a little later this summer...

There is no reason why a native PC app couldn't be written to allow at least simple file-transfer between QL and PC over the QL network using the QLUB. An 'exercise for the reader', as they say - and I understand that another forum member has devised such an app in Python...
Ruptor wrote:I think I read that the QL network runs at 100 KBaud is that correct?
Just about - the standard QLAN bit-frame is 11.2 microseconds or c. 89 Kbps, and with the physical layer and protocol overhead, reaches about 3-4 KB per-sec.

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Re: QL to PC network

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Hi,

I thought Martyn' excellent QLUB was the answer here.

I do not think there is much more software on the QL side to access a PC partition.

Just allow the QL to access the DOS drive on QPC2 with the NFS_USE, something like:

NFS_USE WAN,n1_dos1_, n1_dos2_

So WAN1_ is mapped the the QPC2 DOS1 drive over the QLUB link to the QL.

I do not know how to hi ave Windows/Linux/Mac access the QL. Mind, I am not interested in that sort of access.


Regards,

Derek
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