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I've discovered that if I have ptr_gen loaded (so I can use history_cde) that once the Quill screen loads up fully it all gets trashed and the QL hangs up with a beep

Is there a known reason for this please? Anyone else seen this happen please?

Many thanks

XChange is more ptr_gen friendly than old Quill.

dex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:04 pm XChange is more ptr_gen friendly than old Quill.

Thanks, will give it a go and see what happens

Many thanks

Can’t say I’m keen on xchange having tried it (seems slower too, though that may or may not be true)

Have decided to just create a selective boot menu so I can skip loading ptr_gen/history

Many thanks

Did you try loading quill with the "P" attribute from Hotkey? That should actually work properly:
This should load quill resident and pressing <ALT>1 should then pull quill into the foreground without any problems.

Another way would be to execute Quill as "protected" using EXEP
This should run quill "protected" in a maximum of 64kBytes of memory and it should run fine.

Background of this is actually:

It's not the Pointer Environment that creates problems, it's rather Quill which doesn't behave: It grabs all available memory and all resources. Running it in a "protected" environment (actually, what needs to be protected is QDOS, not Quill ) makes it behave.

Many thanks tofro

Will give it a go

Am currently trying to get SUB & FLP_USE to work so I can run Quill etc from Qimsi folders but emulator doesnt seem to like it so will try on real QL later

Have discovered my problem with SUB is that it only works for 1 level of folders

so SUB 1,WIN2_QUILL_ works as expected
but SUB 1,WIN2_PSION_QUILL_ doesn't work

Is there any equivalent to SUB that can do at least 2 levels please?
(I don't have DEV_USE available so don't know if that would work)

If not I'll restructure my folder layout (was just trying to keep the root very tidy)

Many thanks

Have you possibly exceeded the 41 character limit for filenames (which include device & directories names) ?

ones' complement wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:28 pm Have you possibly exceeded the 41 character limit for filenames (which include device & directories names) ?

No, it’s only 18 characters or so for win2_psion_quill_

When I Dir sub1_ it acts like I entered an invalid device like Dir xyz_ and gives me an empty directory listing with a heading of WIN1

Thanks

I was wrong, SUB doesn't work at all on my QL

Will try the DEV toolkit