Quill Explodes with ptr_gen loaded?

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Quill Explodes with ptr_gen loaded?

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I've discovered that if I have ptr_gen loaded (so I can use history_cde) that once the Quill screen loads up fully it all gets trashed and the QL hangs up with a beep

Is there a known reason for this please? Anyone else seen this happen please?

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Re: Quill Explodes with ptr_gen loaded?

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XChange is more ptr_gen friendly than old Quill.


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dex wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:04 pm XChange is more ptr_gen friendly than old Quill.
Thanks, will give it a go and see what happens

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Can’t say I’m keen on xchange having tried it (seems slower too, though that may or may not be true)

Have decided to just create a selective boot menu so I can skip loading ptr_gen/history

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Re: Quill Explodes with ptr_gen loaded?

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Did you try loading quill with the "P" attribute from Hotkey? That should actually work properly:

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220 ERT HOT_CHP ('q', 'flp1_quill', 'p', 32)
230 HOT_GO
330 ERT HOT_PICK ('1', 'Quill')

This should load quill resident and pressing <ALT>1 should then pull quill into the foreground without any problems.

Another way would be to execute Quill as "protected" using EXEP

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EXEP win1_quill,P,64
This should run quill "protected" in a maximum of 64kBytes of memory and it should run fine.

Background of this is actually:

It's not the Pointer Environment that creates problems, it's rather Quill which doesn't behave: It grabs all available memory and all resources. Running it in a "protected" environment (actually, what needs to be protected is QDOS, not Quill :) ) makes it behave.


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Many thanks tofro

Will give it a go

Am currently trying to get SUB & FLP_USE to work so I can run Quill etc from Qimsi folders but emulator doesnt seem to like it so will try on real QL later


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Re: Quill Explodes with ptr_gen loaded?

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Have discovered my problem with SUB is that it only works for 1 level of folders

so SUB 1,WIN2_QUILL_ works as expected
but SUB 1,WIN2_PSION_QUILL_ doesn't work

Is there any equivalent to SUB that can do at least 2 levels please?
(I don't have DEV_USE available so don't know if that would work)

If not I'll restructure my folder layout (was just trying to keep the root very tidy)

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Have you possibly exceeded the 41 character limit for filenames (which include device & directories names) ?


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ones' complement wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:28 pm Have you possibly exceeded the 41 character limit for filenames (which include device & directories names) ?
No, it’s only 18 characters or so for win2_psion_quill_

When I Dir sub1_ it acts like I entered an invalid device like Dir xyz_ and gives me an empty directory listing with a heading of WIN1

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Re: Quill Explodes with ptr_gen loaded?

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I was wrong, SUB doesn't work at all on my QL

Will try the DEV toolkit


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