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QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:52 pm
by Outsoft
I found this QL Hard Drive in incredible good conditions!!!
Is boxed and seems never used.
I will soon test it and see how the Tony Tebby real HD driver works on my QL.
Someone got one too?
Thanks for all.
Best regards.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 9:55 pm
by dilwyn
In its time this was quite a remarkable product for the QL.
40MB not big capacity for modern hard disk system, but QL programs are fairly small so you can probably store a lot of QL software on it.
Let us know how you get on with it.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 11:23 pm
by janbredenbeek
I used to have one of the early versions with a 30MB hard disk, back in 1989. Regrettably I sold it...
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 9:04 am
by Derek_Stewart
dilwyn wrote:In its time this was quite a remarkable product for the QL.
40MB not big capacity for modern hard disk system, but QL programs are fairly small so you can probably store a lot of QL software on it.
Let us know how you get on with it.
Hi,
I ran a BBS on a Miracle Hard Drive on a Gold Card QL with Hermes. Big enough for most software I had at the time.
The only problem I had, was that it very noisey due to the two fans cooling a large linear power supply, with toroidal transformer. Maybe could be replaced by a modern Switch Mode Power Supply.
I have a Miracle Hard drive without a IDE Card power cable, just need to get around to making it.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 9:40 am
by janbredenbeek
Derek_Stewart wrote:
I ran a BBS on a Miracle Hard Drive on a Gold Card QL with Hermes. Big enough for most software I had at the time.
Never managed to get a 'drive full' error
The only problem I had, was that it very noisey due to the two fans cooling a large linear power supply, with toroidal transformer. Maybe could be replaced by a modern Switch Mode Power Supply.
I remember that too. The voltage regulator had to drop too much voltage and became very hot. I could mitigate that by putting a big resistor in series so I could switch off the fan (my version had only one) so I could sleep
I have a Miracle Hard drive without a IDE Card power cable, just need to get around to making it.
Well back in 1989 IDE wasn't mainstream yet, most drives were MFM and needed an ST-506 compatible controller card (I guess Miracle's HD was one of them too). They might have switched to IDE once that became mainstream a few years later.
Jan.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 8:56 pm
by Outsoft
Derek_Stewart wrote:dilwyn wrote:In its time this was quite a remarkable product for the QL.
40MB not big capacity for modern hard disk system, but QL programs are fairly small so you can probably store a lot of QL software on it.
Let us know how you get on with it.
Hi,
I ran a BBS on a Miracle Hard Drive on a Gold Card QL with Hermes. Big enough for most software I had at the time.
The only problem I had, was that it very noisey due to the two fans cooling a large linear power supply, with toroidal transformer. Maybe could be replaced by a modern Switch Mode Power Supply.
I have a Miracle Hard drive without a IDE Card power cable, just need to get around to making it.
I will test and If get really big noises I will send to you to mod it
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:24 am
by Derek_Stewart
Outsoft wrote:I will test and If get really big noises I will send to you to mod it
Hi,
Do not understand "mod it"
The Miracle Hard Drive is a very noisy system, I used to run it with the power supply separated from the Hard drive and HardCard Interface with the fans disconnected. The fan s are needed to reduce the heat from the big power supply within inches of the hard drive.
If I can remember correctly (1997-98 era), I replaced the Miracle Power Supply with an AT Power Supply.
Seemed to work OK, then Qubide appeared and everything was better.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:45 am
by Outsoft
Derek_Stewart wrote:Outsoft wrote:I will test and If get really big noises I will send to you to mod it
Hi,
Do not understand "mod it"
The Miracle Hard Drive is a very noisy system, I used to run it with the power supply separated from the Hard drive and HardCard Interface with the fans disconnected. The fan s are needed to reduce the heat from the big power supply within inches of the hard drive.
If I can remember correctly (1997-98 era), I replaced the Miracle Power Supply with an AT Power Supply.
Seemed to work OK, then Qubide appeared and everything was better.
"Mod" I mean that you modify it well
So this Hard Drive have his AC adpter internally on the BOX? Like the Miracle Dual Drive systems?
Thanks.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 9:59 am
by Derek_Stewart
Outsoft wrote:Derek_Stewart wrote:Outsoft wrote:I will test and If get really big noises I will send to you to mod it
Hi,
Do not understand "mod it"
The Miracle Hard Drive is a very noisy system, I used to run it with the power supply separated from the Hard drive and HardCard Interface with the fans disconnected. The fan s are needed to reduce the heat from the big power supply within inches of the hard drive.
If I can remember correctly (1997-98 era), I replaced the Miracle Power Supply with an AT Power Supply.
Seemed to work OK, then Qubide appeared and everything was better.
"Mod" I mean that you modify it well
So this Hard Drive have his AC adpter internally on the BOX? Like the Miracle Dual Drive systems?
Thanks.
Hi,
Not sure if I can modify it.
There is a large transformer coil in the steel case much larger than the Miracle Dual Drive systems.
Re: QL Hard Disk 40MB from Miracle Systems
Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 10:30 am
by Outsoft
Derek_Stewart wrote:Outsoft wrote:Derek_Stewart wrote:
Hi,
Do not understand "mod it"
The Miracle Hard Drive is a very noisy system, I used to run it with the power supply separated from the Hard drive and HardCard Interface with the fans disconnected. The fan s are needed to reduce the heat from the big power supply within inches of the hard drive.
If I can remember correctly (1997-98 era), I replaced the Miracle Power Supply with an AT Power Supply.
Seemed to work OK, then Qubide appeared and everything was better.
"Mod" I mean that you modify it well
So this Hard Drive have his AC adpter internally on the BOX? Like the Miracle Dual Drive systems?
Thanks.
Hi,
Not sure if I can modify it.
There is a large transformer coil in the steel case much larger than the Miracle Dual Drive systems.
Ok: I hope that If this unit is really new can works well too.
Thanks for all your precious help.